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		<title>Preservation of the Google Maps Directory</title>
		<link>http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2010/12/18/preservation-google-maps-directory/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently Google deprecated Mapplets, which are little applications that ran on Google Maps. They have also now removed the Google Maps Directory. However its still possible to run mapplets by a dedicated page (well at least for as long as V2 of the Google Maps API exists) &#8211; but no listing of mapplets available within [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently Google <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/google-mapplets-api-notify/browse_thread/thread/e73388069b6a8fed">deprecated Mapplets</a>, which are little applications that ran on Google Maps. They have also <a href="http://googlegeodevelopers.blogspot.com/2010/11/mapplets-to-transition-out-of-google.html">now removed the Google Maps Directory</a>. </p>
<p>However its still possible to run mapplets by a dedicated page (well at least for as long as V2 of the Google Maps API exists) &#8211; but no listing of mapplets available within Google Maps. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/google-maps-directory.jpg"><img src="http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/google-maps-directory-150x150.jpg" alt="" align="right" title="google-maps-directory" width="150" height="150" class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-406" /></a><br />
But fear not, I captured a copy of the mapplet list, and created a small crawler to fetch the details from the mapplets, and present them in a little searchable application: </p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.nearby.org.uk/mapplets.php">Replacement Mapplet Directory</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Admittedly the quality of the applications in the directory where always kinda variable, but there is some real gems in there, so at least preserving a listing I think is worthwhile, so they can be accessed if needbe. </p>
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		<title>UK Onshore geology maps 1:50 000 scale in Google Earth</title>
		<link>http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2010/01/03/uk-onshore-geology-maps-150-000-scale-in-google-earth/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The BGS recently publised the Geology of Britain website, which makes available a Geological map of Great Britain online in an interactive Map Viewer. They make available a 1:625 000 scale layer for Google Earth, and a the 1:50 000 scale version via WMS only. Unfortunatly the WMS doesnt play nicely in Google Earth for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BGS recently publised the <a href="http://www.bgs.ac.uk/education/geology_of_britain/home.html">Geology of Britain</a> website, which makes available a <a href="http://www.bgs.ac.uk/products/digitalmaps/digmapgb.html">Geological map of Great Britain</a> online in an interactive Map Viewer. They make available <a href="http://www.bgs.ac.uk/data/services/digmapgb625kml.html">a 1:625 000 scale</a> layer for Google Earth, and a the 1:50 000 scale version via WMS only. </p>
<p>Unfortunatly the WMS doesnt play nicely in Google Earth for some reason, so here is a hand tuned Google Earth layer to display the 1:50 000 scale Geological Maps:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://gokml.net/2sc.kml">http://gokml.net/2sc.kml</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>Google powers your GeoDatabase</title>
		<link>http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2009/12/13/google-powers-your-geodatabase/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[API]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Update: Dec 16th, Offical Blog post is out. And just for interest a TechCrunch post too. Sometime recently* Google has added &#8216;geo-filtering&#8217; and attribute filtering to the Google Maps Data API, I haven&#8217;t seen any announcement of this or other mention (if it was, it was below my radar), other than a tiny footnote in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Update: Dec 16th, <a href="http://googlegeodevelopers.blogspot.com/2009/12/maps-data-api-bringing-geospatial.html">Offical Blog post</a> is out. And just for interest a <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/15/google-maps-spatial-search/">TechCrunch post</a> too. </strong></p>
<p>Sometime recently* Google has added <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/mapsdata/developers_guide_protocol.html#Search">&#8216;geo-filtering&#8217; and attribute filtering</a> to the <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/mapsdata/">Google Maps Data API</a>, I haven&#8217;t seen any announcement of this or other mention (if it was, it was below my radar), other than a tiny footnote in an <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/maps/articles/geospatial.html">Article</a> about doing geo-queries on AppEngine. </p>
<p>Anyway for people not aware of the Google Maps Data API, its basically a programmatic access method to the &#8216;My Maps&#8217; feature of Google Maps. So with the API you can use Google Maps as your Geo-Database. (Subject I believe to a limit of 10,000 features per &#8216;Map&#8217;, but can have many maps) </p>
<p>However it wasn&#8217;t all that useful, as all you could do was inject your data, or read it all back. But now that searching and filtering is possible, it makes the API a viable method store your data for a Google Maps API or similar mashup. As soon as you get beyond a trival number of markers, you need to store your data in a database, and being able to only fetch the features in the current viewport is a good way of only working with a small subset at once. </p>
<p>Curouslly, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be a &#8216;limit&#8217;; so a big bounding box, could potentially still access many features. But hopefully that will be rectified soon.<br />
Update2: Seems there is a <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/mapsdata/reference.html#Feeds">max-results</a> : handy!</p>
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		<title>Geocube Geograph Clusters in Google Earth &#8211; part 2</title>
		<link>http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2009/07/15/geocube-geograph-clusters-in-google-earth-part-2/</link>
		<comments>http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2009/07/15/geocube-geograph-clusters-in-google-earth-part-2/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now ready with the next version of the Geograph Google Earth Clusters layer mentioned yesterday. Geograph Google Earth Clusters It&#8217;s the same download link, if you already have a copy, just right click and select Refresh on the &#8220;Geograph Google Earth Clusters&#8221; feature. This has a number of advancements: Filterable &#8211; click the main title [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now ready with the next version of the Geograph Google Earth Clusters layer mentioned <a href="http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2009/07/15/geocube-geograph-clusters-in-google-earth/">yesterday</a>. </p>
<blockquote><p><img src="http://www.google.com/earth/images/google_earth_link.gif" alt="Google Earth Layer" /> <a href="http://gokml.net/2kf.kml">Geograph Google Earth Clusters</a></p></blockquote>
<p><small>It&#8217;s the same download link, if you already have a copy, just right click and select Refresh on the &#8220;Geograph Google Earth Clusters&#8221; feature.</small></p>
<p>This has a number of advancements:</p>
<ul>
<li><b>Filterable</b> &#8211; click the main title in the Places panel to open configuration options in the popup balloon. Includes options to filter by keyword or Geograph contributor. <small>(Requires Google Earth version 5)</small></li>
<li><b>Cubes/Cloud</b> &#8211; Geocubes offers two clustering options, can how choose between then on the same popup as above</li>
<li><strong>Thumbnails</strong> &#8211; Now shows a image thumbnail in the placemark balloons.</li>
<li> Shows a few coarse clusters when not zoomed on the British Isles</li>
<li><strong>Source code available</strong>! Download the <a href="http://www.nearby.org.uk/geograph/geocube-google-earth-clusters-0.5.zip">GPL licenced PHP source code here</a></li>
</ul>
<p>But its not all rosey &#8211; this version seems to suffer from an annoying bug, when first loads sometimes the layer &#8216;freezes&#8217; and doesnt automatically update as you move around. <strong>If that happens right click on the &#8216;Clusters&#8217; feature in &#8216;Places&#8217; and select Refresh, doing that once seems to fix it!</strong></p>
<p>Thanks to <a href="http://www.geocubes.com/">Geocubes</a> to the amazing service that powers this &#8211; highly recommended if you have larger numbers of features to display!</p>
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		<title>Geocube Geograph Clusters in Google Earth</title>
		<link>http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2009/07/15/geocube-geograph-clusters-in-google-earth/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Experimental]]></category>
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		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/?p=297</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s about time did some Google Earth hacking, so thanks to the people at Geocubes, have made a new interactive layer for Google Earth. Geograph Google Earth Clusters This works in a similar way to the Geograph SuperLayer, by showing coverage overview, and then zooming in to reveal more detail. The Geocubes layer has the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time did some Google Earth hacking, so thanks to the people at <a href="http://www.geocubes.com/">Geocubes</a>, have made a new interactive layer for Google Earth. </p>
<blockquote><p><img src="http://www.google.com/earth/images/google_earth_link.gif"/> <a href="http://gokml.net/2kf.kml">Geograph Google Earth Clusters</a></p></blockquote>
<p>This works in a similar way to the <a href="http://www.geograph.org.uk/kml.php">Geograph SuperLayer</a>, by showing coverage overview, and then zooming in to reveal more detail. The Geocubes layer has the advantage that the clusters work into a closer zoom, and updates to the geograph database make it into the layer within hours. The SuperLayer is slower updating (weeks), but navigating should be much quicker being as its based on KML regions. </p>
<p>You can view also <a href="http://www.geograph.org.uk/mapper/clusters.php#r=c">a Google Maps based version of the layer</a>, using the Geocubes API directly. </p>
<p>This is only version 0.1 &#8211; there is more to be done &#8211; including being able to filter the results based on words and contributor, but this is exciting enough on its own. Once done a bit of work on tidying up the code plan to release it so others can use the geocubes service to create their own layer like this <img src='http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Watch this space!</p>
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		<title>Google indexes &#8216;Related Maps&#8217; aka GeoRSS feeds</title>
		<link>http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2009/06/27/google-indexes-related-maps-aka-georss-feeds/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just stumbled on this today, and not seen it noted anywhere yet, but (recently?) Google has exposed its index of &#8216;Related Maps&#8217; on Google Maps. If you open the &#8216;Show Search Options&#8217; option, there is an entry &#8216;Related Maps&#8217; &#8211; this mainly seems to be GeoRSS feeds its found out in the wild, but does [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just stumbled on this today, and not seen it noted anywhere yet, but (recently?) Google has exposed its index of &#8216;Related Maps&#8217; on <a href="http://maps.google.com/">Google Maps</a>. </p>
<p>If you open the &#8216;Show Search Options&#8217; option, there is an entry &#8216;Related Maps&#8217; &#8211; this mainly seems to be GeoRSS feeds its found out in the wild, but does include maps from &#8216;My Maps&#8217;, but strangely not KML files (which are mostly indexed in User-Created Content I guess) </p>
<p>Oh and if you where wondering, yes did find this when <a href="http://maps.google.com/?q=geograph&#038;sll=52.222752,-4.21875&#038;ll=52.143181,-4.141846&#038;z=11&#038;sspn=0.341555,0.520477">checking</a> something out on geograph. (Note the link at the top to view Related Maps) </p>
<p>Still waiting for the day when we get good access to Googles GeoIndex, the AJAX Search API gives very limited (32 results max, and no urls! oh and doesnt include all the options included in the &#8216;options&#8217; dropdown on Google Maps either), feels so this data could/should be exposed more?</p>
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		<title>MGRS coordinate entry</title>
		<link>http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2008/12/12/mgrs-coordinate-entry/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 01:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prompted by one of those infernal* posts on a Google Maps group, have finally been inspired to cobble together a MGRS -&#62; Lat/Long conversion. It seems trvial, the UTM-&#62;MGRS conversion is quite simple, but there are a few gotchas!, so after much puzzleing over some C code from GeoTrans (and Trial&#38;Error for good measure!), I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prompted by one of those infernal* posts on a Google Maps group, have finally been inspired to cobble together a MGRS -&gt; Lat/Long conversion. It seems trvial, the UTM-&gt;MGRS conversion is quite simple, but there are a few gotchas!, so after much puzzleing over some C code from GeoTrans (and Trial&amp;Error for good measure!), I think** have something working.</p>
<p>Anyway try it out here: </p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.nearby.org.uk/flyto.php">Coordinate Flyto for Google Earth/Maps</a></p></blockquote>
<p>also added today is a tickbox to open the result direct in Google Maps (rather than Google Earth). </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tidy it up and post the code, which is based on the <a href="http://www.jstott.me.uk/phpcoord/">PHPcoord conversion class</a>, incase others have a use. I&#8217;ll also add it to the API &#8211; and possibly even back port it into Perl for use on the on site coordinate covertor. </p>
<p>Finally possibly of interest is the realisation that the <a href="http://www.nearby.org.uk/google.html#17">MGRS Google Earth Gridlines layer</a>, will actully load directly in Google Maps, so:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=http:%2F%2Fwww.nearby.org.uk%2Fgoogle%2FGridlines_mgrs.kml.pl&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=-16.57039,133.942566&amp;spn=4.39532,4.213257&amp;z=8">MGRS Gridlines in Google Maps</a></p></blockquote>
<p>the lines should update a few seconds after dragging/zooming. Ideally will suppress the big blue pins (which are show as numbers in GE) , but not tonight&#8230;</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>* in the nicest possible sence!</p>
<p>** I tested it by converting utm-&gt;mgrs-&gt;utm globally on a worldwide 1 degree grid &#8211; all check out with absolute precision.</p>
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		<title>Between a rock and a hard place&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2008/12/08/between-a-rock-and-a-hard-place/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is going to be a long and rambley piece about licences and the updated updated Terms of Service of the Google Maps API &#8211; if either of those don&#8217;t interest you turn away now Not that long ago Google updated the Terms of Service on Google Maps API &#8211; I guess mainly in responce [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going to be a long and rambley piece about licences and the updated updated Terms of Service of the Google Maps API &#8211; if either of those don&#8217;t interest you turn away now <img src='http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Not that long ago Google <a href="http://googlegeodevelopers.blogspot.com/2008/11/posted-by-mickey-kataria-product.html">updated</a> the <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/maps/terms.html">Terms of Service</a> on <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/maps/">Google Maps API</a> &#8211; I guess mainly in responce to <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/t/d4956d6126bd3b01">issues</a> brought up on the <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/">Mail group</a>, and <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/11/the_mapping_mess_google_v_os.html">elsewhere</a>. As a result of that edit there where <a href="http://www.edparsons.com/2008/11/who-reads-the-terms-of-service-anyway/#comments">many</a> <a href="http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2008/11/13/use-google-maps-api-to-display-data-now-powned/">concerns</a> <a href="http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/11/17/will-mashups-be-threatened-by-googles-map-api-tos/#more-1521">raised</a> (and <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/t/3b0bd5922c7115f0">more</a>)- and a <a href="http://googlegeodevelopers.blogspot.com/2008/11/update-to-google-maps-api-terms-of.html">further edit</a> was made. (note, only linked to some of the blogs etc &#8211; follow links to read more) This was over a week ago, but due to non online commitments haven&#8217;t really had a time to follow this up. You can read my early reaction <a href="http://blumenthals.com/blog/2008/11/26/google-updates-google-maps-api-to-calm-the-storm-in-great-britain/">here</a>, which has been edited in to Mikes post.</p>
<hr />Below is the <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/maps/terms.html#section_11">main section</a> that is still causing concern, quoted in its entirety:</p>
<blockquote><p><small><strong>11. Licenses from You to Google.</strong></small></p>
<p><small>11.1<span style="text-decoration: underline;"> Content License.</span> Google claims no ownership over Your Content, and You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Your Content. By submitting, posting or displaying Your Content in the Service, you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute Your Content through the Service and as search results through Google Services. This license is solely for the purpose of enabling Google to operate the Service, to promote the Service (including through public presentations), and to index and serve such content as search results through Google Services. If you are unable or unwilling to provide such a license to Your Content, please see the <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/maps/faq.html#tos_optout">FAQ</a> for information on configuring your Maps API Implementation to opt out.</small></p>
<p><small>11.2 <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Brand Features License.</span> You grant to Google a nontransferable, nonexclusive license during the Term to use Your Brand Features to advertise that you are using the Service.</small></p>
<p><small>11.3 <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Authority to Grant Licenses.</span> You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above licenses.</small></p></blockquote>
<p>To be honest still unsure how I feel about this section, and finding it very hard to vocalise (well to put to pixels) the concerns. I certain its not compatible with a number of situations where the Maps would otherwise be ideal, but that I guess is real life &#8211; just need to move on an find <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/">something </a>that is more suitable. But its still gauling to have invested so much in Google Maps API to have it all disappear in puff of legal smoke, I guess its now going to be<em>&#8220;Once Burnt, Twice Shy&#8221; </em>as they say.</p>
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<hr />I&#8217;ll try to put it into more practical terms. On <a href="http://www.geograph.org.uk/">Geograph</a> (which was a fairly big user of the API) contributors submit photos by releasing them under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/">Creative Commons licence</a>. Its important to note that Geograph (the site or company running it) doesn&#8217;t get any additional rights or licence to the photos beyond the CC licence. Now according to the above section, the API developer (in this case me) must be able to grant Google a licence to the displayed data, but the licence is not compatible (no attribution clause) with the CC licence. Ok then, the last sentance of 11.1 hints at a get out &#8211; however jumping to the FAQ, which says:</p>
<blockquote><p><small><strong>How can I opt out of including my content in Google search results?</strong><br />
To remove your page or site from search results, follow the instructions provided in our webmaster help center. If we enable indexing of any content that is a part of your Maps API implementation, we will provide updated instructions to opt out of including that content in search results.</small></p></blockquote>
<p>This seems to equate &#8216;indexing&#8217; with &#8216;licence&#8217;.</p>
<p>Now I kinda understand why Google are doing this, they want to legalise the crawling they are doing &#8211; so they have a get out that the data has been licensed to them specifically.</p>
<p>So does that mean if we don&#8217;t agree to the licence &#8211; the data wont be crawled and indexed? But we do want content to be indexed &#8211; previously we&#8217;ve never agreed by allowing content to be crawled we giving a licence to that data.</p>
<p>&#8230; so with Geograph at least &#8211; I cant grant the licence &#8211; but I cant use the elusive &#8216;opt out&#8217; (boils down to robots.txt I guess), as I do want the content to be indexed. <strong>So can Geograph use the Google Maps API or not?</strong> I still can&#8217;t see how it can &#8211; if it did it would be contravening the TOS of the API (cant confirm as per 11.3), and/or violating the Creative Commons licence (see section 4.a. of the <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/legalcode">legal code</a>,<em> &#8220;You may not sublicense the Work.&#8221;</em> which is the most succinct expression of the issue).</p>
<p>Another silly issue in all of this, users displaying Geograph content on Google Maps website itself (eg via KML files) are basically agreeing to the same terms (by way of <a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/help/terms_maps.html">here</a> and <a href="http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS">here</a> [see section 11]). So the same issue displaying such content is not actually abiding by the terms and licence. And by providing links to Google Maps we inciting users to do this :p &#8211; but that is a step away from doing it wholesale on the website itself?</p>
<hr />On a plus side have re-enabled the mashups on this site*, which I think are compatible with this updated updated terms, I still don&#8217;t have a licence to the data &#8211; but I dont allow it to be indexed either &#8211; and if/when Google start indexing mashups there will be mechanism to explicitly say no.</p>
<p>* sorry this has taken so long, truly sorry for the inconvenience. In retrospect maybe was a bit hasty &#8211; but couldnt allow the licence to data been entrusted with the be undermined.</p>
<hr />Slightly tangential, I just love the irony that as be section 11 of the Terms, Google wants a perpetual licence to your data, but in section 7 it only gives you a very limited licence to the mapping data &#8211; because of course it isn&#8217;t theirs. (not saying I disagree with section 7, just pointing out the disparity)</p>
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		<title>Content on Google somehere, somehow?</title>
		<link>http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2008/08/16/content-on-google-somehere-somehow/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t know if anyone is interested in this stuff, but have been for a long time being trying to make sence of the various &#8216;geo&#8217; properties operated by Google and quite a bit on how to get indexed and exposure for your content. Update: There has been some misconception about what this diagram represents [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone is interested in this stuff, but have been for a long time being trying to make sence of the various &#8216;geo&#8217; properties operated by Google and quite a bit on how to get <em>indexed</em> and <em>exposure</em> for your content.</p>
<p><strong>Update: There has been some misconception about what this diagram represents &#8211; it is only intended to cover getting content in KML/KMZ files on your website listed and indexed in Google Properties. It&#8217;s sort of murky in that content you submit to other websites are sort of included to show they end up in various indexes. It does not cover business listings at all which for the most part is sepetate totally. </strong></p>
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<div id="attachment_168" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 211px"><a href="http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/geoindex.gif"><img class="size-full wp-image-168" title="GeoIndex Overview" src="http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/geoindex-thumb.gif" alt="GeoIndex Overview Diagram" width="201" height="241" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">GeoIndex Overview Diagram</p></div>
<p>Links for the purple circles:</p>
<ol>
<li><a href="http://www.nearby.org.uk/gadget-for-kml.php">http://www.nearby.org.uk/gadget-for-kml.php</a></li>
<li><a href="http://code.google.com/apis/kml/documentation/kmlSearch.html">http://code.google.com/apis/kml/documentation/kmlSearch.html</a></li>
<li><a href="http://maps.google.com/ig/submit?synd=mpl&amp;pid=mpl">http://maps.google.com/ig/submit?synd=mpl&amp;pid=mpl</a></li>
<li><a href="http://earth.google.com/submit.html">http://earth.google.com/submit.html</a></li>
<li><a href="http://maps.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=68480">http://maps.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=68480</a></li>
<li><a href="http://earth.google.com/gallery/index.html">http://earth.google.com/gallery/index.html</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.panoramio.com/help#about_GE">http://www.panoramio.com/help#about_GE</a></li>
<li><a href="http://bbs.keyhole.com/">http://bbs.keyhole.com/</a></li>
</ol>
<p>probably incomprehensible, but hopefully useful to someone? Questions or feedback welcome.</p>
<p>Update: notable perhaps for its exclusion, is Outreach &#8211; Oops, version 2 perhaps?</p>
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		<title>Edit your MyMap container</title>
		<link>http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2008/08/09/edit-your-mymap-container/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Small update to the My Maps support in GoKML, announced a few days ago; you can now edit the links contained in the file. Just goto your secret admin page, generated for your link. People viewing your file in Google Maps will see the update soon, Google Maps caches it for a while. People viewing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small update to the <a href="http://gokml.net/?MyMaps">My Maps support in GoKML</a>, <a href="http://www.nearby.org.uk/blog/2008/08/06/my-maps-container/">announced</a> a few days ago; you can now edit the links contained in the file. Just goto your secret admin page, generated for your link. </p>
<p>People viewing your file in Google Maps will see the update soon, Google Maps caches it for a while. </p>
<p>People viewing in Google Earth however will not, as they downloaded a static file, which brings onto another point, if want them to auto update as well, could create a network link to your Container, using the <a href="http://gokml.net/">standard GoKML form</a>, (enter the url your container and choose appriate refresh period). </p>
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